Taloth Kcovik
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Posted - 2010.06.04 21:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Umega
Edited by: Umega on 04/06/2010 19:13:17
Originally by: gr7hug
Originally by: Umega
Lvl 5s are the same. Your lack of ability to have some friends support you in doing them outside of highsec is your problem.. and that is Your problem, not CCP.
The best of every other profession is outside of high, tough **** that now mission running is too. Sounds like how it shoulda been in the first place.
And you must be absolutely terrible at PvP if you believe you need lvl 5 missions to fund it. That's either the lamest arguement possible for cry babies here.. or you really really suck at this game and its no wonder you only want to do the predictable NPC fights.
Wrong. And you are missing most of my point anyway.
How can lvl 5 missions be worth running if you need a fleet on standby to come save your ass? Compared to soloing a lvl 4 mission, splitting a lvl 5 4+ ways is just silly.
A fleet of what, a couple of ships to scout? dscan broken? No.. I know.. pure laziness and ease is what it comes down to. Wanting the highest most ridiculous risk/reward ratio possible. Otherwise you cry to mommy.
Why should miners have to risk their weapon/defenseless ships for the best ore? But they do. With friends to help.
How about them nullsec ratters and exploration runners? Sure they'll solo.. friendly 'safe' spot, yeah I know. But don't mislead people into thinking it is simply that. There are hundreds to thousands of people in a majority of these alliances/corps keeping that sector of space 'safe'. The work of many is actually the end result of this. People really need to stop with the bull**** of null is safe and makes more and can be solo/duo/tri'd crap.. cause it really isn't being done in small numbers to great extent as reality is.
The wealth for an industrialist in moon-goo. Where is the moon-goo? Oh yeah. See where this is going yet?
That miner's ship, the nullsec space, the moon.. all can be taken away. Booo-hoooo that now the top tier for a mission runner has to do the same and risk what they have for what they wish to gain.
Your point is 'I want lazy risk free isk, the highest possible'. My point is.. grow some balls and HTFU. The only change is that now it is more in line with other professions. Hint one that people ***** about how 'most people are in hhighsec doing missions so they should give us what we want'.. hmmmm wonder why, if thats true (and I don't believe it is, people do missions for a variety of reasons.. fun is low on that list, lets be real people).. that most people would be doing missions. The answer is rather clear then.
I'd say you have it backward, mining and moon mining is pretty low risk simply because of the cost/reward. Mining ships are cheap, you can insure them and at most you're putting t2 mods in them. A faction fit faction battleship on the other hand is more expensive by an order of magnitude and can only be insured for a fraction of its price. You have to look to at the pvp capabilities of pve ship, and wonder why anyone would take one out of high sec to begin with. A couple of t1 fitted pvp ships can easily ruin the day of a fleet of multi-billion dollar ships by sheer virtue of what they're fitted to do. Its less a matter of balls and more a matter of having to be a complete idiot to do that. In fact, if you compare the price of a really bad-ass pve ship to the amount you get from hours and hours of grinding, you have to wonder why anyone would do it. Compared with how much you can make in null it JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. Unless of course, people enjoyed running missions.
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